tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post9189194354016144575..comments2024-03-08T18:49:51.289-05:00Comments on Classic Film and TV Café: James Cagney Blogathon: Roles Cagney Turned DownRick29http://www.blogger.com/profile/08358116647815569722noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-32733019484163644162018-05-28T09:24:00.352-04:002018-05-28T09:24:00.352-04:00francis ford personally invited Cagney to his hous...francis ford personally invited Cagney to his house to discuss the character of vito with cagney, but jimmy was not feeling it and did turn it down. coppola at first only pictured Cagney playing the role.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13556279768021809996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-40262335255929397852015-10-26T18:30:32.124-04:002015-10-26T18:30:32.124-04:00Personally I think Cagney would have been poor cas...Personally I think Cagney would have been poor casting for either Don Corleone or Hyman Roth. And I've never before heard that Jimmy was considered for THE GODFATHER. I do know that Edward G. Robinson was briefly considered and that even George Raft's name came up (can't see Raft as Corleone, but he might have made a neat addition to the Mafia conference scene since, in later years, Raft bore a slight resemblance to Carlo Gambino.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05666293871782031925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-83519335079251340062013-04-13T03:13:02.712-04:002013-04-13T03:13:02.712-04:00I think Cagney was right to turn down most of the ...I think Cagney was right to turn down most of the roles you mention, but the prospect of him as either Vito Corleone in "Godfather I" or Hyman Roth in "Godfather II" is tantalizing. I've always thought he probably could've taught Lee Strasberg a thing or two, and like the idea of him in Strasberg's only significant role. Though Strasberg got an Oscar nomination for that performance, I've always thought his mannerisms were a bit obvious. The Lady Evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963115499930520653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-59272687312004349522013-04-12T18:20:43.626-04:002013-04-12T18:20:43.626-04:00Great post. I can't imagine him in "Going...Great post. I can't imagine him in "Going My Way," but "Harry and Tonto" may have been really terrific. Classicfilmboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01278928051994100842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-76650119803484133592013-04-12T08:04:22.356-04:002013-04-12T08:04:22.356-04:00Cagney in green tights? I'm not so sure (tho I...Cagney in green tights? I'm not so sure (tho I think Guy Kibbee as Friar Tuck is not a bad choice). And I'm glad Stanley Holloway got to keep his stage role in My Fair Lady; as interesting as Cagney might have been in the part, Holloway really owned it. A fun post on might-have-been speculation (and a great idea to do for a series of posts!).Grand Old Movieshttp://grandoldmovies.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-48940078795224958462013-04-11T19:18:39.872-04:002013-04-11T19:18:39.872-04:00I always love hearing about alternate actors consi...I always love hearing about alternate actors considered by studios. From our perspective, it feels like a fait accomplit - esp the iconic roles...BUT...Cagney as Robin Hood??? What were they thinking???Martin Turnbull (the Garden of Allah novels)http://www.martinturnbull.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-65966714724735216042013-04-11T19:17:04.418-04:002013-04-11T19:17:04.418-04:00You're right, Kevin, he could have pulled it o...You're right, Kevin, he could have pulled it off the same way (and for much the same reasons) that Bogart made the switch from heavy to private eye.Martin Turnbull (the Garden of Allah novels)http://www.martinturnbull.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-30921954715535724762013-04-11T17:28:39.632-04:002013-04-11T17:28:39.632-04:00I definetelly can't see Jimmy as Robin Hood, b...I definetelly can't see Jimmy as Robin Hood, but can in the other roles. He would have been amazing as Father O'Malley, in The Fair Lady and The Godfather. It's what happens to fans of deceased actors: we always want that they had done more films!<br />Don' forget to WATCH my contribution to the blogathon! :)<br />Greetings!Lêhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02419693749682458647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-3213405109524030452013-04-11T12:13:38.862-04:002013-04-11T12:13:38.862-04:00I'm with everyone, unable to imagine Cagney as...I'm with everyone, unable to imagine Cagney as Robin Hood. Actually, I think it would have been pretty bad, but with Cagney you never know.<br /><br />So glad he didn't get Dave the Dude, but that's my Warren William bias at work. I could more easily imagine Powell doing it, but then he and Warren played a lot of similar roles.<br /><br />The one I could best picture of this bunch, that I would have liked to have seen, is Cagney as Hyman Roth in "The Godfather." That seems like a fit!<br /><br />Great topic which (as you can see) can sprout endless conversation! Cliff Alipertihttp://immortalephemera.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-77188081560492831112013-04-11T06:24:04.402-04:002013-04-11T06:24:04.402-04:00Always fascinating to ponder "what might have...Always fascinating to ponder "what might have been" when it comes to movie casting. For me, Cagney's most intriguing near-miss was playing Doolittle's father in "My Fair Lady"...I would have loved to have seen that.<br />Thanks for a clever and informative post!Ken Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04940648971296673233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-40375548607397324572013-04-11T05:52:29.723-04:002013-04-11T05:52:29.723-04:00Very interesting post, Rick. Although Jimmy and Wa...Very interesting post, Rick. Although Jimmy and Warners had a stormy relationship, they really knew what was best for their star. And can you imagine our friend, Becky's, sadness if Errol Flynn was padded over for Robin Hood??FlickChickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17351624749230610755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-3839380663519758182013-04-11T02:08:41.313-04:002013-04-11T02:08:41.313-04:00Rick, I enjoyed this a lot. I have a much easier t...Rick, I enjoyed this a lot. I have a much easier time picturing Cagney in some of these roles than in others. I can easily see him as Dave the Dude in "Lady for a Day" and find it interesting that Capra thought of him for a comedy picture. I don't see him at all as Robin Hood, though. It must have been his acrobatic style of acting that made Warners think of him for a swashbuckler. R. D. Finchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045080274131718843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-57828594570836364752013-04-10T17:06:51.539-04:002013-04-10T17:06:51.539-04:00He comes close in "G men"He comes close in "G men"Delhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16946926502624407576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-69809866029495937472013-04-10T16:25:39.636-04:002013-04-10T16:25:39.636-04:00Great post! Cagney was also offered the role of pl...Great post! Cagney was also offered the role of playing Al Jolson in The Jolson Story but he did not want to do another film bio.David Loboscohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870831249761911028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-59425114456970645492013-04-10T16:18:55.511-04:002013-04-10T16:18:55.511-04:00What a clever post! I laughed out loud when I saw ...What a clever post! I laughed out loud when I saw Cagney's face on Errol Flynn's body! Only if it were "Robin and the Seven Hoods" could James have pulled that one off. I agree with Kevin's post that Cagney would have done very well as a gumshoe.<br /><br />Very thought provoking, Rick. Well done!toto2https://www.blogger.com/profile/09652682900471649463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-85866976889711113252013-04-10T15:11:52.591-04:002013-04-10T15:11:52.591-04:00Cagney sued Warner Bros. in 1935 for breach of con...<i>Cagney sued Warner Bros. in 1935 for breach of contract, a lengthy lawsuit eventually won by the actor. </i><br /><br />He would have had this in common with Olivia de Havilland, too. Against all odds, she won a landmark lawsuit with the studio, because she, like Cagney, is a total badass (though she'd probably disapprove of my language).<br /><br />Great piece! I had no idea Cagney was up for such parts. The only one I can really see is Hyman Roth. The others? Eh, not so much his style. All for the best things worked out as they did, I suppose.Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15532386898201721692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-480323592819743582013-04-10T12:17:35.431-04:002013-04-10T12:17:35.431-04:00Fascinating roles to contemplate for Cagney.
I re...Fascinating roles to contemplate for Cagney.<br /><br />I really wish Cagney had taken the job in "My Fair Lady", no disrespect to Mr. Holloway. I can just hear Jimmy: "I'm willing to tell you I'm waiting to tell you. I'm wanting to tell you."<br /><br />I'm glad he didn't get Knute Rockne. It was a great part for Pat O'Brien. I'm surprised he didn't get an Oscar nomination. The Academy loves it when folks put on make-up.Caftan Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05936895555808823221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-69625309863150867942013-04-10T11:08:26.680-04:002013-04-10T11:08:26.680-04:00I hope someone can correct me if I'm wrong, bu...I hope someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall Cagney playing a detective in any movie. I always thought the tenacity he brought to his roles would have made him an ideal gumshoe. I wonder if he was ever offered any detective roles, but he turned them down? A great post, Rick. Kevin Deanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07697597405552599370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-58576931446188104512013-04-10T10:24:23.715-04:002013-04-10T10:24:23.715-04:00What a fun post, Rick! It's always interestin...What a fun post, Rick! It's always interesting to discover the other roles an actor might have had. Like you, I cannot imagine Cagney as Robin Hood. <br /><br />I read in Mr. Cagney's autobiography that he was tempted with "My Fair Lady." He wasn't tempted for long, though, as he was committed to his retirement and deep down had no interest in going back. He wrote (in 1976) that that film was the "only time he had a slight tug to go back, and the tug was there only because he is a song-and-dance man, and "My Fair Lady" was one hell of a song-and-dance picture." <br /><br />For the record, though Stanley Holloway was terrific in the role, I think Cagney would have been so as well.<br /><br />Patti https://www.blogger.com/profile/12931836399684850729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-66122274977340613922013-04-10T09:03:32.245-04:002013-04-10T09:03:32.245-04:00It's always interesting to learn what roles ac...It's always interesting to learn what roles actors turned down or got passed over for. He passed up on some that were big hits and garnered awards for others. I've never read his autobiography, but it would be interesting to know what I thought about such things. Nice piece.Kimberly J.M. Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09078951928157843937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5344878851139332715.post-7745169858580068792013-04-10T08:57:58.112-04:002013-04-10T08:57:58.112-04:00It's hard to imagine Cagney as Robin Hood, isn...It's hard to imagine Cagney as Robin Hood, isn't it? It might have been fun to see him in a swashbuckling role - and I do like him in as a cowboy with shades of Robin Hood in 'The Oklahoma Kid' - but Errol Flynn is absolutely perfect in the role, so I'm glad things turned out as they did on that one! A fascinating posting, Rick - so many Hollywood films considered various casting choices, and it is always interesting to wonder how the other actors would have played the parts. <br /><br />I've heard of several other films where Cagney was at one time considered for the lead but didn't make the film for one reason or another - one that springs to mind was '20,000 Years in Sing Sing', where Spencer Tracy ended up playing the lead role instead, and does a great job, but it does rather feel as if the character was written for Cagney.<br /><br />It seems as if Jack Warner would have liked to replace the whole Broadway cast of 'My Fair Lady' - he also wanted Cary Grant to replace Rex Harrison! I'm very glad that both Grant and Cagney turned him down, though I would love to hear Cagney sing Stanley Holloway's songs from the film. Judyhttp://movieclassics.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com